This post is inspired by a brilliant essay by Freddie deBoer which asks the question, now the geek culture is so dominant, why do self identified geeks still feel like a persecuted minority? Freddy doesn't actually answer the question but he's really good at sketching the overwhelming importance of geekdom (although my dictation software doesn't recognize the word geekdom) at this moment in time.
But it led me to ask myself, "Am I a geek?"
There's a simple answer: I am too old and thus by definition too uncool to be a geek.
Turn the clock back 50 years, however, and in many respects I was the perfect geek, and not just because I loved science fiction when most other people scorned it (mainly I think because they found it incomprehensible). To me, science fiction, the science fiction in books and stories, talked about the important stuff. And for that reason, I was just weird. This opinion was shared by adults, teachers, and kids my own age. Whether they harassed me, or were just puzzled by me, they really were not interested in the world of science fiction, in the world as seen through science fiction.
I eventually at university found other people who shared my tastes and I became involved in what was then called fandom. There was more than one variety of fandom of course even back then, but the core fandom was fandom about books and stories. Yes, some people were interested in comics, and we kept hoping people would make some good science fiction movies, but reading and writing were the entrance to the real stuff. Fans read, talk about what they read, wrote about what they read ("fanzines"), and sometimes wrote their own stories and became pros instead of mere fans.
So I was a fan, and if the word had been used back then, I would have been called a geek.
But I'm pretty sure I never would have qualified as a geek by today's standards. Let me just talk about one particular thing. Even when I was eight years old, I found DC comics to be too childish for me. Maybe I was a little older than eight, maybe I was 11. Despite all the evident improvement in the comic book genre that took place only a few years later, I never could take superheroes very seriously. And although there have been many good SF movies made since the 1960s, I've never been able to be as enthusiastic about video SF and fantasy as I have about the written stuff that has meant so much to me – too much video is just dumbed down versions of stuff that was better when the original writer wrote the book.
Thus when I went to see the Avengers the summer, it was mainly because I thought Joss Whedon (whose talent I appreciate so much that I actually have watched seasons and seasons of stories about vampires, about which I otherwise care not) might do something special with it. It turned out to be a pleasant interlude in a comfortable theater, not a reverential experience with my childhood heroes.
So there it is: old-time fan, WorldCon attendee, Lord of the Rings nut, a fan who became an SCA person, back when the whole SCA was made up of fans– but geek? I dunno.
Let me get back to watching old episodes of Babylon 5 and I will think about some more.
Image: Only vaguely interested.
Update: From John Scalzi's site, Teresa provides this historical perspective (taken from a comment by Telzey Amberdon at CNN, responding to a Joe Peacock piece there on women geeks): (Now see http://geekout.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/24/booth-babes-need-not-apply/):
“When you wrote, “I find it fantastic that women are finally able to enjoy a culture that has predominately been male-oriented and male-driven.”, I laughed so hard at this exhibition of absolutely adorable male privilege that I found myself unable to take the rest of the article seriously. Women invented media culture when they invented fanfiction for Man from Uncle and Star Trek, and then mounted the very first media convention for Star Trek, and all the subsequent ones for the next 10 years or so. I attended the second Star Trek convention held in NYC in 1973 and it was given by mostly all women and attended by mostly all women. You found predominantly male fans at literary (literary as in books and magazines like Analog and Astounding) SciFi and Fantasy conventions, and those guys sneered at us, making sure we understood that female media fans were beneath the far more intellectual book-oriented male fans. Not that we didn’t let whatever guys who wanted to come to our conventions attend: we felt the more, the merrier. But it was a 90% female vs 10% male attendance at those early cons, if I remember correctly. Possibly higher than 90%. When Shatner did his “Get a life!” turn on SNL, he addressed that tiny percentage of usually-dorky males you’d see at a media con back then – I remember wondering aloud where the heck the fannish women were at in that sketch. I’d never seen an all-male crowd at any of the media cons I’d been to. But such is male privilege, it sees what it wants to see, I suppose. OTOH, maybe Mr. Shatner just didn’t want to be seen screaming at women. Such was our happy inclusiveness that eventually men started to enjoy media fandom in greater numbers as they abandoned literary fandom in droves and all the pulp SciFi magazines crumbled, and just look: they apparently think they invented it now. You guys are so cute, if somewhat annoying! I suggest you pick up Bjo Trimble’s “On the Good Ship Enterprise–My 15 Years With Star Trek” if you want to read about all the women who invented media fandom and the culture. Pics or it didn’t happen: I’ve got a ton of pictures from that era of fannishness and it’s chicks all the way. A few males, but mostly women. Leave my sisters alone and consider yourself lucky we allowed you guys into *our* culture.”
I couldn't stand DC comics. They lacked depth to me. The Marvel Universe was an integrated whole with multidimensional characters, crossover plots and "real" people. Just because they had some kind of powers didn't mean they weren't getting married, or dying, or having kids or even committing suicide. (The original Angel killed himself and Wolverine tried to when Gene and Scott got married.) Most importantly, the characters themselves were intelligent, witty, and even sarcastic.
ReplyDeleteNow that was a little later than your initial experience, but I couldn't find that in DC at all even with the couple of year difference.
Yet today we have people gaming who would never have even considered it in the past. Even with the "golden age" of gaming behind us (where there were dozens of games, worlds and options) we see a market much larger than ever before. At the same time the "average" person is making celebrities out of Jersey Shore and watching people argue about motorcycles. It may be the separation has created greater poles... or that the WHO estimates 1 in 88 children are being born with an Autism Spectrum Disorder. It could also be that people like you and I are now the ones BUILDING the video games and pitching the movies and making the toys we wished we'd had when we were younger.
I agree. I sneered at Star Trek when it came out because it was "pretty putrid Science Fiction". It still is, though I don't sneer as much after a (far too) few good episodes changed my mind.
ReplyDeleteIn my defence of this attitude, remember the literary world was dominated by the Ursula La Guinns and Bob Heinleins of the genre. Like all "Analog" readers, I preferred the term "speculative fiction" and did not feel that it was "escapist" at all, and bristled at use of that term.
Lord Dunsanay, Bob Heinlein, Andre Norton and JRR Tolkein were serious competition to the TV shows of the day, and the first Star Trek episode I took seriously was when David Gerrold wrote the perfect Science Fiction story...the "Trouble with Tribbles". The first crack in the snop facade. So I hear ya.
As an aside, I never liked the term "geek" since where I grew up it was a perjorative term. A really nasty perjorative term. I suspect people who think themselves as "geeks" are really thinking of themselves as "nerds".
Geeks come in many flavors. The military geek who runs around conventions in combat uniforms of various types, and is considered by us real (former) military types to be, by and large rather amusing. The Japanese Geek who considers all things Japanese to be perfect in every way, and is willing to emulate it providing they don't have to work too hard. The SCA provided a good outlet for those Japanese Geeks. Geekdom is not confined to the SF fan world...re-enactors get involved in their little worlds sometimes a little too much. If anything, the SCA provided a harmless lightning rod for such "geeky" behaviour. Though I notice the collective smile tended to slip a bit when fairies and vampires were perceived as planning a takeover of Pensic. (no, it never happened, but the rhetoric at the time! OMG)
So yeah....I think "geeks" are actually in the minority. Good for you to point it out.